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		<title>By: lain</title>
		<link>http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/2009/01/whats_he_doing/comment-page-1/#comment-26342</link>
		<dc:creator>lain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>she said no but she really meant yes and that she was asking for it because she was walking down a street with two webs cams?! (surely not)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>she said no but she really meant yes and that she was asking for it because she was walking down a street with two webs cams?! (surely not)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McNulty</title>
		<link>http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/2009/01/whats_he_doing/comment-page-1/#comment-26335</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McNulty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photo seems to be missing?</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/2009/01/whats_he_doing/comment-page-1/#comment-26317</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your &quot;niggly feeling&quot; instinct was right on the money in this instance. While the law is simple and clear enough, the ethics and a photographers responsibility to the subject are much less clear cut. It&#039;s quite easy to ask &quot;is it OK?&quot; and get tacit approval from people using body language alone, and it doesn&#039;t interrupt your flow (unless you&#039;re taking pure candids). If you get a &#039;no&#039; and you&#039;ve taken the picture, you have to decide whether to publish. In my case I apply a sort of &#039;public interest&#039; test to it:

- is a wider interest served (perhaps for a news/documentary story on drug abuse/urban violence) or just my own ego?

- does the image preserve the subjects diginity, or might publication cause hurt or embarrassment (are they face down in the gutter or is their face screwed up like a pig)?

- is the activity shown legal (publishing images of violence or police brutality, for example, might very well be justified, all other considerations aside)?

I think photography is at it&#039;s best when it empathises with its subjects and serves a higher interest - very little of the top flight work created over the years would fail the above tests; paparazzi work often would. Much as I find some peoples reaction a bit precious on occasion, I think most of us instinctively see a difference between being caught on CCTV or a webcam and being photographed by another human being. As photographers we have to make a choice we can live with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your &#8220;niggly feeling&#8221; instinct was right on the money in this instance. While the law is simple and clear enough, the ethics and a photographers responsibility to the subject are much less clear cut. It&#8217;s quite easy to ask &#8220;is it OK?&#8221; and get tacit approval from people using body language alone, and it doesn&#8217;t interrupt your flow (unless you&#8217;re taking pure candids). If you get a &#8216;no&#8217; and you&#8217;ve taken the picture, you have to decide whether to publish. In my case I apply a sort of &#8216;public interest&#8217; test to it:</p>
<p>- is a wider interest served (perhaps for a news/documentary story on drug abuse/urban violence) or just my own ego?</p>
<p>- does the image preserve the subjects diginity, or might publication cause hurt or embarrassment (are they face down in the gutter or is their face screwed up like a pig)?</p>
<p>- is the activity shown legal (publishing images of violence or police brutality, for example, might very well be justified, all other considerations aside)?</p>
<p>I think photography is at it&#8217;s best when it empathises with its subjects and serves a higher interest &#8211; very little of the top flight work created over the years would fail the above tests; paparazzi work often would. Much as I find some peoples reaction a bit precious on occasion, I think most of us instinctively see a difference between being caught on CCTV or a webcam and being photographed by another human being. As photographers we have to make a choice we can live with.</p>
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		<title>By: David Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/2009/01/whats_he_doing/comment-page-1/#comment-26310</link>
		<dc:creator>David Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pity I missed the photo, I like to see the kinds of reactions people get when they&#039;re &#039;caught in the act&#039; so to speak, though I totally appreciate why you decided to remove it. I sometimes get a few hands going over faces when people walk into shot and realise what they&#039;ve done, and I&#039;ve had one person ask not to be photographed when they realised what I was about to do, and that was cool as I wouldn&#039;t want to go against someone&#039;s wishes like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity I missed the photo, I like to see the kinds of reactions people get when they&#8217;re &#8216;caught in the act&#8217; so to speak, though I totally appreciate why you decided to remove it. I sometimes get a few hands going over faces when people walk into shot and realise what they&#8217;ve done, and I&#8217;ve had one person ask not to be photographed when they realised what I was about to do, and that was cool as I wouldn&#8217;t want to go against someone&#8217;s wishes like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/2009/01/whats_he_doing/comment-page-1/#comment-26304</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t ask their permission.  Its not always possible to and the law in the UK allows me to take anyones photo.  However, its a good idea to get consent and generally you&#039;ll know if someone doesn&#039;t want their photo taken.  I felt that these girls reacted in a more comic way than anything.  They chose the wrong road to walk down as it has 2 web cams on it, and always has tourists taking photos.  

I&#039;m debating taking the photo down.  I&#039;ll leave this open for discussion, but I did have a niggly feeling last night about whether I should post it.  As you&#039;ve picked up on it its now stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t ask their permission.  Its not always possible to and the law in the UK allows me to take anyones photo.  However, its a good idea to get consent and generally you&#8217;ll know if someone doesn&#8217;t want their photo taken.  I felt that these girls reacted in a more comic way than anything.  They chose the wrong road to walk down as it has 2 web cams on it, and always has tourists taking photos.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m debating taking the photo down.  I&#8217;ll leave this open for discussion, but I did have a niggly feeling last night about whether I should post it.  As you&#8217;ve picked up on it its now stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: EgoPimp</title>
		<link>http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/2009/01/whats_he_doing/comment-page-1/#comment-26303</link>
		<dc:creator>EgoPimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A perfect street portrait, you have captured emotion.  Fine, as a result of you and the camera, but I still like it.  Its good to get a reaction.

No question about it, I would publish without thinking twice.

Well done.

Gary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A perfect street portrait, you have captured emotion.  Fine, as a result of you and the camera, but I still like it.  Its good to get a reaction.</p>
<p>No question about it, I would publish without thinking twice.</p>
<p>Well done.</p>
<p>Gary.</p>
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		<title>By: LightningPaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>LightningPaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nice but bit noisy image (still ok, especially in B/W). The reaction of the girls makes the image even better.

I can understand the reaction of the girls. Perhaps they shouldn&#039;t be there at this place and they want nobody to find out. Did you ask their permission to publish this image? I always ask permission to the person(s) (or their parents in case of children), unless they are part of public happening, for instance carnaval or a haloween parade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice but bit noisy image (still ok, especially in B/W). The reaction of the girls makes the image even better.</p>
<p>I can understand the reaction of the girls. Perhaps they shouldn&#8217;t be there at this place and they want nobody to find out. Did you ask their permission to publish this image? I always ask permission to the person(s) (or their parents in case of children), unless they are part of public happening, for instance carnaval or a haloween parade.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.vanilladays.com/gallery/2009/01/whats_he_doing/comment-page-1/#comment-26301</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peoples response is bizarre sometimes. But given that their response would seem to be a tacit &quot;no&quot;, do you think it&#039;s fair game to publish it, particularly as it&#039;s not (for me at least) a great shot by your usual standards? It&#039;s intended to be a question rather than a criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peoples response is bizarre sometimes. But given that their response would seem to be a tacit &#8220;no&#8221;, do you think it&#8217;s fair game to publish it, particularly as it&#8217;s not (for me at least) a great shot by your usual standards? It&#8217;s intended to be a question rather than a criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhijit Dharmadhikari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhijit Dharmadhikari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it! It&#039;s a crazy world! I get similar experiences sometimes. Shooting street/unknown people; especially females is challenging and also very risky!

Superb black and white tones in the picture! Just like an old time silver halide effect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it! It&#8217;s a crazy world! I get similar experiences sometimes. Shooting street/unknown people; especially females is challenging and also very risky!</p>
<p>Superb black and white tones in the picture! Just like an old time silver halide effect!</p>
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